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Making frameworks suck less - SF PHP Meetup Nov 2008

Nov 2008 6
Thu 6:30 PM
Location
CBS Interactive

235 2nd St
San Francisco, CA 94105
(415) 344-2000

Estimated attendance
 116  people attended.
4.50 4.5020

Who organized?
Mariano Peterson and Michael Tougeron

Terry Chay will be returning to speak again! Due to popular demand Terry has agreed to give his recent "Making frameworks suck less" talk that he gave to the ZendCon08 UnCon this year. Be sure to wear comfortable shoes 'cause Terry will pack the room!

The blurb from ZendCon08:
Terry Chay, the original PHP Terrorist, is well known for his criticism and ridicule of the Ruby on Rails framework. He criticizes, mocks, and f-bombs his enemies into surrender. In this discussion, Terry will share his ideas and thoughts on making frameworks better.

Thank you to Sun's Startup Essentials team for sponsoring this event and providing the video recording/hosting.

Agenda:
6:30 - 7:00 -- Doors open/general socializing & food brought to us by Sun's Startup Essentials team
7:00 - 7:20 -- Wen Huang from Sun: Xdebug - a brief overview and tutorial on installing, using, and integrating with an IDE
7:30 - ?? -- It's the Terry Chay show! (Rated R)
?? - 10:00 -- General discussion/Q&A/networking/etc.
10:00ish -- end of group

Map to CNET Networks, Inc.
When you arrive, please look for the PHP Meetup sign pointing you to the conference room. Please RSVP if you are attending so that I can prepare enough snacks and beverages.

Look forward to seeing you there!

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Talk about this Meetup

  • Michael Tougeron
    Posted Jan 12, 2009 10:32 AM
    Michael Tougeron
    Organizer
    The video is up on the SDN Channel: http://blogs.sun.com/SDNCha...
  • Robert Gonzalez
    Posted Dec 19, 2008 10:32 AM
    Robert Gonzalez
    Did Terry's presentation ever make it to video? I was unable to make it to the meetup and I really want to see it.
  • Cassandra Clark
    Posted Nov 11, 2008 3:06 PM
    Cassandra Clark
    Wanted to let you all know we are working on editing the video of Terry. We hope to post at SDN Channel - blogs.sun.com/sdnchannel, no later then Wednesday of next week.

Who attended?

  • 116 attendees
    • “ The pizza hit the spot. I needed food. The first presenter needed to learn how to use the microphone so we could hear him. I think he was soft spoken to begin with and that didn't help his cause. Terry presented well. I enjoyed his structured, casual approach to a presentation. I learned a bit about frameworks from him. It was cool that I'd had exposure to Symfony prior to the presentation though so I knew what a framework was already. This made it all make sense. I also liked that there was a moment for people to make their own announcements. I was just laid off yesterday and two of the job opportunities as a PHP developer applied to me. ”
    • “ Interesting talk ”
    • “ Very informative, interesting, and entertaining! ”
    • “ Terry edu-tains again ”
    • “ Great Presentation and hosting. ”
    • “ I am now interested in Xdebug since it is free. I thought Netbeans was a database so now I know. Mariano thanks for your explanation of the difference Zend framework and Zend platform and your drawings. Maybe the caching and performance tuning of Zend platform should be discussed some time? I have a question being new to frameworks. If you did use Zend for an "enterprise" app should you also use Smarty or would you just use one or the other? CAn you just use your own template system or is that reinventing the wheel. Are there limitations to using Smarty like there are for platforms. thanks for an informative meeting, ”
    • “ Great PHP meetup once again. Terry's talk was great, even for those of us that don't code. ”
    • “ One of the best meetup's so far I think. ”
    • “ The meeting format is great. The main speaker seemed convinced that the concept of "the more complex your problem, the harder it is to solve" and the corollaries arising from the same. I admit that may just be a personal reaction, but my thought was 'if this is what he considered deep understanding, his company needs better architects'. Don't change the meeting though -- you can't make all of us happy all the time. ”
    • “ Speaker was good, but a lot of his info about non-php was outdated or wrong. ”
    • jose d lopez (+1 guest)
    • Christopher Peri (+1 guest)
    • PAS
    • Tom